Apr 15 15:00:10 rool Call Apr 15 15:00:12 that close by me Apr 15 15:00:16 Roll* Apr 15 15:00:19 that is Apr 15 15:00:24 * quantumsummers|c is present Apr 15 15:00:31 dabbott: I thought it might be Apr 15 15:00:33 also here Apr 15 15:00:35 nice area Apr 15 15:00:41 I'm loggig but can't post the log :( don't ask Apr 15 15:00:51 i can Apr 15 15:00:59 hi Apr 15 15:01:00 untill i bust this box Apr 15 15:01:06 present Apr 15 15:01:15 hi robbat2 Apr 15 15:01:20 thanks dabbott Apr 15 15:01:25 where's mah steak Apr 15 15:01:31 rich0, ? Apr 15 15:01:47 here Apr 15 15:01:53 Sorry, alt-tabbed :) Apr 15 15:01:56 OK, we have a quorum - no need to wait Apr 15 15:02:16 Funding Request for Fosscomm 2012 Apr 15 15:02:48 I don't see us funding much more than decorations for a stand and DVDs Apr 15 15:03:17 that would include T-Shirts for those manning the stand Apr 15 15:03:24 Tend to agree. Anything beyond that would have to be special circumstances Apr 15 15:03:35 do we have a budget amount in mind? Apr 15 15:03:48 something like $500 or similar Apr 15 15:03:53 they just want DVD's, stickers and flyers Apr 15 15:04:19 ah $350 Apr 15 15:04:19 Fosscomm 2012 - 200 dvds - 300 stickers - 300 flyers Apr 15 15:04:29 the amounts in the their table add to 220EUR, and they asked for 270EUR budget Apr 15 15:04:31 comment 2 has a figure Apr 15 15:04:36 in USD Apr 15 15:04:59 dabbott, that works - its easiest if the stuff is procured locally. Then we avoid customs and international shipping hassels Apr 15 15:05:18 they should be able to handle that, I would think Apr 15 15:05:22 is tampakrap around? Apr 15 15:05:27 thats the plan comment 3 Apr 15 15:05:27 yep Apr 15 15:05:35 seems reasonable Apr 15 15:05:44 give me a min to read backlog Apr 15 15:05:52 I think we should make one of them write a PR article or two for us :) Apr 15 15:06:02 ++ Apr 15 15:06:04 quantumsummers, seems fair Apr 15 15:06:10 just so we get some exposure, etc Apr 15 15:06:17 and pictures Apr 15 15:06:29 two (a before and an after) Apr 15 15:06:34 with images Apr 15 15:06:45 for to promote the glory of ze gentoo Apr 15 15:06:47 :D Apr 15 15:06:56 yes don't worry about that Apr 15 15:07:01 any questions for Theo et. at.? Apr 15 15:07:09 tampakrap: I always worry Apr 15 15:07:16 about everything these days Apr 15 15:07:29 Do we need to approve the 270 euro budge here and now ? Apr 15 15:07:30 sorry, parents on the phone... Apr 15 15:07:38 motion: approve budget of 270EUR (~$350USD) for Fosscom? Apr 15 15:07:40 so, we asked for 270 euros right? Apr 15 15:07:46 seconded Apr 15 15:07:47 seconded Apr 15 15:07:52 Vote! Apr 15 15:07:52 aye Apr 15 15:07:54 aye Apr 15 15:07:55 aye Apr 15 15:07:56 vote please Apr 15 15:07:56 yes Apr 15 15:08:01 yes Apr 15 15:08:05 carried Apr 15 15:08:10 thank you :) Apr 15 15:08:17 yw Apr 15 15:08:27 have fun :) Apr 15 15:08:28 about PR, no worries we're going to have plenty of pics and blog posts for that (as every year) Apr 15 15:08:32 So, to summarize, we need two (2) PR news items, one for before and one for after. Apr 15 15:08:44 ok then Apr 15 15:08:55 tampakrap, I can post them Apr 15 15:08:57 tampakrap, you have 270 euros approved - if you go over that the excess needs to be approved before you spend it. We will need receipts too Apr 15 15:08:58 have a good ole time tampakrap, sounds like a great event Apr 15 15:09:24 tampakrap: just post scans of your receipts to that bug Apr 15 15:09:35 we can use it to track the reimbursements, etc Apr 15 15:09:38 we'll pass an article to dabbott then Apr 15 15:09:44 2! Apr 15 15:09:47 ack about receipts Apr 15 15:09:48 that works Apr 15 15:09:48 :D Apr 15 15:09:51 ok Apr 15 15:09:59 (one for before I meant :) ) Apr 15 15:10:06 alright alright. Apr 15 15:10:16 any more for Fosscomm 2012 ? Apr 15 15:10:19 thanks a lot, it's going to be fun (esp for me after 4 months away of GR :) ) Apr 15 15:10:44 Gentoo Logo Usage Policy Apr 15 15:11:25 I'm out of date on this and haven't had time to do my homework Apr 15 15:11:35 same here. apologies Apr 15 15:11:45 we need to come up with a diff from our current policy and what we want it to be Apr 15 15:11:51 i think the only pending bug is bug 369185 Apr 15 15:11:53 robbat2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/369185 "Official "g" logo's licensing under CCPL-Sampling-Plus-1.0 should mentioned at Gentoo Name and Logo Usage Guidelines"; Website www.gentoo.org, Graphics; IN_P; sping:trustees Apr 15 15:12:29 I think we were basically contemplating a re-write. Apr 15 15:12:37 * jospoortvliet (~superston@opensuse/member/jospoortvliet) has joined #gentoo-trustees Apr 15 15:12:48 rich0, ok Apr 15 15:12:55 Just hasn't happened yet... Apr 15 15:12:59 robbat2, yep I agree. We could make things easier for the Foundation by simplyfying our policy - so we don't have to do everything on a case by case basis Apr 15 15:13:30 we couldn't come to an agreement amongst ourselves before Apr 15 15:13:37 Should be ahve a (new) separate community make ? Apr 15 15:13:43 mark? Apr 15 15:13:59 about the mark protection vs ease of use Apr 15 15:14:53 Lets leave it open another month - if there is still no consensus, or progress,we can close the issue and stay with the status quo Apr 15 15:15:04 I would lean more to ease of use than protection Apr 15 15:15:28 quantumsummers, you have the floor SFLC Update Apr 15 15:15:37 ok, next month for logos Apr 15 15:16:02 should we ask the sflc to assist with logo licensing? Apr 15 15:16:08 I can do that, no prob Apr 15 15:16:28 quantumsummers, not before we agree the sort of thing we want to do Apr 15 15:16:40 ok. Apr 15 15:17:41 as far as an update, I have re-established contact with a new attorney there name Aaron Williamson. Apr 15 15:17:53 lets see Apr 15 15:18:10 so the gentoo iranian irc channel ended up being no big deal Apr 15 15:18:39 we had a long discussion about gentoo in general Apr 15 15:18:45 it can get listed on our IRC channels list then ? Apr 15 15:18:51 yes Apr 15 15:19:14 it was added already i thought Apr 15 15:19:18 I thinkso Apr 15 15:19:21 even better Apr 15 15:19:24 this is not terribly new stuff Apr 15 15:19:28 key points of discussion: 1) 501c3 v 501c6 v public benefit c-corp Apr 15 15:19:34 ^^ really interesting stuff here Apr 15 15:20:14 proceed :) Apr 15 15:20:15 Given that the IRS is treating floss groups with some predudice now, its good to know we have alternative options Apr 15 15:20:47 I think we all need to have a frank discussion about what the direction of the Foundation should be Apr 15 15:20:49 does that mean doing all the paperwork again ? Apr 15 15:20:52 no Apr 15 15:21:14 lets go with what the SFLC suggest then Apr 15 15:22:01 Aaron has not made a strong suggestion Apr 15 15:22:11 mainly, asked me to convey the options Apr 15 15:22:22 so that we could make a better informed decision Apr 15 15:22:28 here is the trouble ... Apr 15 15:22:34 It seems the IRS doesn't like us applying for 501c3 Apr 15 15:22:51 it has nothing to do with us, necessarily Apr 15 15:23:03 its the entire floss community that is having trouble Apr 15 15:23:06 ok, groups like us Apr 15 15:23:20 the IRS has not developed standard policy for dealing with floss groups Apr 15 15:23:23 it seems Apr 15 15:23:41 however, there are some hints that they are close to an internal policy Apr 15 15:24:03 if we continue with 501c3 and its rejected, can we try 501c6 later ? Apr 15 15:24:05 but, those hints are not good for Gentoo unless we drastically restructure our application Apr 15 15:24:15 NeddySeagoon: yes, I think so Apr 15 15:24:21 but times a wasting Apr 15 15:24:57 mainly, since Gentoo is not an educational, scientific or charitable institution we could have some difficulty Apr 15 15:25:17 the c6 is a good option, look at the linux foundation Apr 15 15:25:20 yep - provided we can reapply for another catagory later, we may as well go with 501c3 as we are about ready Apr 15 15:25:49 the thing with c6 is that its geared towards corporations and not necessarily individuals Apr 15 15:25:55 We claim educational in our charter Apr 15 15:25:59 this is true Apr 15 15:26:09 which is what formed the basis of much of the narrative Apr 15 15:26:59 the fact that some businesses use gentoo to gain competitive advantage is the tricky bit (according to Williamson) Apr 15 15:27:08 i.e. nasdaq, google, etc Apr 15 15:27:09 and gentoo devs (the majority of our members) are mostly students working on their uni education Apr 15 15:28:27 now, I have other opinions of the state of things from our CPAs, but they are not as in tune with the floss + irs relationship Apr 15 15:28:36 our CPAs think we have no trouble Apr 15 15:28:41 i don't agree that most devs are students anymore Apr 15 15:28:42 what gentoo is used for and how we support education through Gentoo is not really connected - Gentoo is free Apr 15 15:28:44 we will have ** Apr 15 15:28:51 NeddySeagoon: I agree Apr 15 15:29:18 10 years ago, yes, most devs were students, but the stable core has aged since then Apr 15 15:29:23 this brings me to the last bit on point 1, the so-called public benefit corp Apr 15 15:29:30 robbat2: this is true Apr 15 15:29:53 the public benefit corp has many good point. Its new to the US Apr 15 15:30:12 robbat2, interesting Apr 15 15:30:20 so, its not well documented and not too many states have a legal framework for it yet Apr 15 15:30:22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_corporation Apr 15 15:30:50 note that sflc is based in NY Apr 15 15:31:34 they must publicly report on their social and environmental performances using established third-party standards. ... sounds onourous Apr 15 15:31:49 heh no more that 501c3 Apr 15 15:32:06 and much of the reporting is not mandatory (depends on the state) Apr 15 15:32:21 http://www.benefitcorp.net/ Apr 15 15:32:58 I'll read up off line Apr 15 15:33:05 http://www.bcorporation.net/ is also good Apr 15 15:33:10 any more for the SFLC ? Apr 15 15:33:19 lets talk about this, I think it's worth discussing Apr 15 15:33:34 via mail Apr 15 15:34:12 bookmarked Apr 15 15:34:27 quantumsummers, agreed - move to the list Apr 15 15:35:28 ok, they are willing to assist with any other consideration we may have Apr 15 15:35:43 thanks quantumsummers Apr 15 15:35:46 Update Financial Reports Apr 15 15:35:53 sflc made a strong arguement that b-corp could beneft floss more than 501c3 Apr 15 15:36:06 anyway, that is it from them that needs to be covered here Apr 15 15:36:07 Is this a case of Just do it, or is there more to it tan that ? Apr 15 15:36:21 just do ti Apr 15 15:36:23 *it Apr 15 15:36:34 any volunteers ? Apr 15 15:36:34 I have the data, finding the time is the hard part right now Apr 15 15:36:42 give the little one Apr 15 15:36:44 Just do what? Apr 15 15:36:51 update the reports on Apr 15 15:36:54 b-corp, or reports? Apr 15 15:36:58 reports Apr 15 15:37:06 b-corp is not a light decision Apr 15 15:37:10 agreed Apr 15 15:37:13 hence my question Apr 15 15:37:14 quantumsummers, that won't get any easier. What happened to the guy we we trying to recrit ? Apr 15 15:37:29 have not heard anything from him in awhile Apr 15 15:37:35 like several months Apr 15 15:37:45 Is it with him or us ? Apr 15 15:37:59 probably me Apr 15 15:38:01 not sure Apr 15 15:38:22 he did not come to any meetings Apr 15 15:38:46 We need to follow up and get him on board, if he is still interested. quantumsummers you have too many officer roles just now Apr 15 15:38:59 I agree Apr 15 15:39:20 I think the Secretary bit should be the main one to offload Apr 15 15:39:31 any takers? Apr 15 15:39:34 :) Apr 15 15:39:38 Thats your choice Apr 15 15:39:50 Max was more interested in helping with finance Apr 15 15:40:00 I would really like a non trustee to fill the role Apr 15 15:40:26 role -> office Apr 15 15:40:26 We need to have someone that has been around awhile with Gentoo Apr 15 15:40:33 Lets try the add again we got quantumsummers :) Apr 15 15:40:44 Having trustees as officers is a weakness Apr 15 15:40:45 ad Apr 15 15:41:11 dabbott, ok - are you offering to update it ? Apr 15 15:41:17 sure Apr 15 15:41:39 This officer role is an important one that requires a great deal of trust. Apr 15 15:41:58 Thanks - I've lost all my pass phrases. Meanwhile nothing works :( Apr 15 15:42:16 Given the responsibilities, mainly regarding being a signatory, we need to take care in giving that authority out Apr 15 15:42:30 since it could be misused, potentially Apr 15 15:42:32 quantumsummers, I agree. Apr 15 15:43:22 Probably best to recruit help, and then build trust over time. Apr 15 15:43:32 quantumsummers, can anyone help with Financial Reports or is it a question of posting things that already exist ? Apr 15 15:43:45 Ie, have them help with reports/etc, and give signing rights later once established. Apr 15 15:43:58 rich0: this is a solid idea Apr 15 15:44:07 bring them in as assistant to the officer Apr 15 15:44:18 or trustee acting as officer Apr 15 15:44:32 rich0, it will take 3 months to get them up to speed easily. If they are still around, they are interested Apr 15 15:44:49 Exactly Apr 15 15:44:56 quantumsummers, why don't you take the title of Treasure and I or rich0 can assume the role of Secretary for now Apr 15 15:45:09 quantumsummers, that works - the key thing is to avoid you being a singkle poit of failure Apr 15 15:45:25 dabbott, NeddySeagoon: that works for me, please do Apr 15 15:45:42 sounds good Apr 15 15:45:47 who takes the job? Apr 15 15:45:49 Treasurer benefits more from continuity Apr 15 15:45:58 dabbott, if you want it all yours Apr 15 15:46:08 But, I don't mind pitching in in any case Apr 15 15:46:27 whomever, I have the django app and database that contains the members and makes the xml members page Apr 15 15:46:50 I can do it while we look for a good replacement, thanks rich0 Apr 15 15:47:02 robbat2: I suppose we should put that somewhere besides my business infra Apr 15 15:47:08 the db is sqlite Apr 15 15:47:09 yes Apr 15 15:47:17 i can do whatever DB Apr 15 15:47:22 dabbott, is that you appointed Secretary and you will attempt to recruit an assistant ? Apr 15 15:47:30 (as an aside, i've learnt a crapload of Django in the last 2 months) Apr 15 15:47:30 I have been keeping the entire thing in git Apr 15 15:47:36 sure Apr 15 15:47:38 robbat2: I know :) Apr 15 15:48:10 quantumsummers, let me know my responsibilities Apr 15 15:48:24 dabbott: ok, I'll mail you Apr 15 15:48:31 send me an email, i am old Apr 15 15:48:31 its fairly straight forward Apr 15 15:48:44 quantumsummers, its for you to pass the office over to dabbott. Do we have to update any filings ? Apr 15 15:49:02 NeddySeagoon: we will update this fall Apr 15 15:49:09 he is already listed as a director Apr 15 15:49:13 ok, that works. Apr 15 15:49:19 so really, its just adding secretary to that Apr 15 15:49:21 dabbott, consider documenting those responsibilities in a web page while they're all written out anyway Apr 15 15:49:26 +1 Apr 15 15:49:36 ++ Apr 15 15:49:39 dabbott, welcome to the office of Secretary. Consider your salary doubled Apr 15 15:49:48 :) Apr 15 15:49:52 * quantumsummers|c makes note of salary doubling Apr 15 15:49:53 thanks Apr 15 15:50:08 I shall halve my salary Apr 15 15:50:15 hehe Apr 15 15:50:50 And I'll be noble and take the Steve Jobs $1 salary. :) Apr 15 15:50:50 Moving on ... Apr 15 15:50:55 now, teh 2011 report, that is somewhere already Apr 15 15:51:01 not xml-ified Apr 15 15:51:14 a pdf maybe or plain text Apr 15 15:51:31 anyway, I will work on this next week,. I'll carve out some time Apr 15 15:51:33 I see no harm in posting plain text reports on the website. Apr 15 15:51:38 ugly Apr 15 15:51:39 Its someones webspace IIRC Apr 15 15:51:40 Sure, xml is nicer, but better to document something Apr 15 15:52:08 Moving on ... Apr 15 15:52:09 Its someones webspace IIRC Apr 15 15:52:14 i can do the xml Apr 15 15:52:15 Financial | Legal Status Apr 15 15:52:26 dabbott, thank you Apr 15 15:52:31 ok, CPA stuff Apr 15 15:52:46 first, rich0, the tax filings are due on Nov 15th Apr 15 15:52:58 this is due to our end of fiscal year in June Apr 15 15:53:41 Did we file the final return for this year? Apr 15 15:53:47 for 2010 the CPA filed some provisional document that will likely need to be amended. However we have not heard anything from the irs about this Apr 15 15:53:54 this is a good thing Apr 15 15:54:10 do we only amend if the IRS ask ? Apr 15 15:54:14 no Apr 15 15:54:34 I don't want the IRS waiting for me at immigration :) Apr 15 15:54:38 we will amend when we submit an amendment for all the previous years Apr 15 15:54:41 heh Apr 15 15:54:44 you are fine Apr 15 15:54:51 its an interesting approach Apr 15 15:54:51 ok Apr 15 15:55:03 The reason I put April on the chart was that we had filed for an extension I think, so I just bumped the date rather than calling it done. However, if we are calling it done I can update the tracker accordingly. Apr 15 15:55:29 rich0: I see. I think I did not talk about the filing when it went in or something Apr 15 15:55:39 rich0, it soulds like its done - the amendment is another task Apr 15 15:55:46 Ok, I'll update the tracker Apr 15 15:55:53 last few months have been bad for me keeping everything together Apr 15 15:55:55 sorry for that Apr 15 15:56:08 so, ... Apr 15 15:56:21 have we had a bill from the CPA yet ? Apr 15 15:56:31 The week after next I get back working with the CPA again on things Apr 15 15:56:57 NeddySeagoon: I do not believe we have received anything yet, which is not surprising Apr 15 15:57:05 invoice-wise Apr 15 15:57:19 we are well below our estimated budget, that I certain Apr 15 15:57:23 *is Apr 15 15:57:23 quantumsummers, if you are not surprided, I'll not worry about it Apr 15 15:57:37 I have been using them for 7 years now. Apr 15 15:57:44 they invoice upon completion Apr 15 15:57:54 they are not finished with their scope Apr 15 15:57:54 quantumsummers, as long as they are not billing your Apr 15 15:58:03 your - > you Apr 15 15:58:05 heh, I would notice that I hope Apr 15 15:58:21 maybe that was why last year was so high ;) Apr 15 15:58:32 hehe. Apr 15 15:58:32 I kid\ Apr 15 15:58:44 I think we are on track with the financial Apr 15 15:58:52 any more on the CPA ? Apr 15 15:59:03 I will get some data together next week and get things updated on the web soon Apr 15 15:59:06 nothing mroe Apr 15 15:59:07 *more Apr 15 15:59:31 rich0, you have the floor for Foundation Activity Tracker Update Apr 15 15:59:47 Ok, I'll capture the tax date change. Apr 15 15:59:55 No other changes other than needing to resort it. Apr 15 16:00:05 I'm noting that next month we need to kick off the election process Apr 15 16:00:21 yep, who is up? Apr 15 16:00:31 yep Me Apr 15 16:00:39 who else? Apr 15 16:01:09 NeddySeagoon: will you run again? Apr 15 16:01:10 I'll need to look back at the election results Apr 15 16:01:14 We have time to discuss planning more next month. However, we need to announce the June recording date by the end of May to be ready for August Apr 15 16:01:26 rich0: very good Apr 15 16:02:05 quantumsummers, probably - I'm finding it hard to find Gentoo time just now because work is silly but that should calm down later in the year. Apr 15 16:02:25 NeddySeagoon: good to hear. I endorse you. Apr 15 16:02:40 The recording date will be our meeting of 17 June Apr 15 16:02:55 quantumsummers, thank you Apr 15 16:03:06 that should give dabbott and I plenty of time to adjust/share/whatever the membership app Apr 15 16:03:14 and robbat2 too Apr 15 16:03:20 its not fancy or complicated Apr 15 16:03:25 in fact its quite trivial Apr 15 16:03:39 NeddySeagoon: you are most welcome Apr 15 16:03:45 the annouce can go out after our 20 May meeting Apr 15 16:04:29 Its the council election in June too Apr 15 16:04:39 I think I am up here are the results from 2010 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/trustees/2010/foundation-2010.xml Apr 15 16:05:32 I could step aside and be the secretary and let someone else get involved Apr 15 16:05:46 * diffreal has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Apr 15 16:06:14 i think i'm not going to run again as a trustee, but i'm not entirely decided yet. Apr 15 16:06:46 its nice to have someone from infra involved Apr 15 16:06:58 dabbott, lets see what interest we get from the membership Apr 15 16:07:01 neither of you can leave! Apr 15 16:07:20 robbat2, it makes life easier with an infra guy on the team Apr 15 16:07:20 I'd definitely at least see what the field of nominees looks like, unless you really want a break Apr 15 16:07:40 Don't asssume that there is this huge pool of strong candidates out there. In some past years we've had trouble fielding 3, let alone 5 Apr 15 16:07:44 not a big deal just a thought Apr 15 16:08:00 maybe we should have an infra officer ? Apr 15 16:08:06 yes Apr 15 16:08:14 i joined with the objective of more transparency in the foundation, and that has been achieved. i don't need a voter mandate to solve problems Apr 15 16:09:28 Agenda item 4 Bugs Apr 15 16:10:11 Do we need to go throgh the bugs list ? Apr 15 16:10:34 nothing new Apr 15 16:10:37 I have added 351045 to my list for sflc Apr 15 16:10:38 can we close 373241? Apr 15 16:10:46 *bug 373241 Apr 15 16:10:49 robbat2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/373241 "Fund the building of 3 MIPS build systems"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; IN_P; mattst88:trustees Apr 15 16:11:16 these systems are up and running, producing stages? Apr 15 16:11:27 I do not follow mips Apr 15 16:11:31 i don't either Apr 15 16:11:33 robbat2, are the boxes complete and the monies paid/received ? Apr 15 16:11:43 I reimbursed Matt Apr 15 16:12:00 i left a comment to ask matt Apr 15 16:12:07 thats a yes - then Apr 15 16:12:08 no other bug work needed Apr 15 16:12:15 robbat2, sonunds good Apr 15 16:12:31 i want to see that the boxes are actually in use Apr 15 16:12:39 New Business LinuxExpo Funding Apr 15 16:13:05 that was the thing with Theo right? Apr 15 16:13:08 agreed, robbat2 would you want that sicortex machine? Apr 15 16:13:16 :D Apr 15 16:13:17 its huge Apr 15 16:13:36 not really Apr 15 16:13:49 ah, not as big as I thought Apr 15 16:14:17 maybe in future, not rightn ow Apr 15 16:14:30 can we wrap up soon, i have a different meeting in 15 mins Apr 15 16:14:32 New Business LinuxExpo Funding Apr 15 16:14:55 for LinuxExpo Funding we need a bug opened and some spicif amounts etc Apr 15 16:14:58 we already nixed travel funding for devs when tampakrap asked last meeting Apr 15 16:15:06 spacific Apr 15 16:15:21 *specific Apr 15 16:15:26 lol Apr 15 16:15:27 Yup, suggest that he write up a proposal per the usual process. Most likely the amount that should be planned on is a few hundred dollars like with most venues. Apr 15 16:15:31 thank you Apr 15 16:15:33 yep. Our budget won't do much more then provide DVDs, and decorate the stand Apr 15 16:15:38 tampakrap: see above Apr 15 16:15:44 re: linux expo Apr 15 16:15:51 i'm watching Apr 15 16:16:04 tampakrap: why rotate the g logo? Apr 15 16:16:09 that is messed up, yo Apr 15 16:16:24 rotate the lizard and see how suzy feels Apr 15 16:16:26 it's just an idea, to create a combined logo for the conf Apr 15 16:16:31 I see Apr 15 16:16:34 afk, doorbell Apr 15 16:16:35 well good fun Apr 15 16:16:37 Actually, I thought the idea wasn't bad. Apr 15 16:16:48 * quantumsummers|c quiets down Apr 15 16:16:48 I'd just probably skew it a little, not a full 90 deg Apr 15 16:17:23 ok Apr 15 16:17:41 well, the important thing here is if the foundation (and the community) actually needs such an event Apr 15 16:17:57 I believe it is a good opportunity for us, since the costs will be covered already Apr 15 16:18:32 Cleanup ... Apr 15 16:18:37 Date of Next Meeting - 20th May 2012 19:00 UTC Apr 15 16:18:42 works for me Apr 15 16:18:45 wfm Apr 15 16:18:49 fine here Apr 15 16:19:12 I will do the log and the motion Apr 15 16:19:35 dabbott, it looks like you get to post the log and do the motions this month Apr 15 16:19:44 and there are no emails Apr 15 16:19:54 Open Floor ... Apr 15 16:21:04 tampakrap, i'm in favour of the event, but i can't justify the foundation budget for airfares Apr 15 16:21:24 robbat2, ++ Apr 15 16:21:52 ok Apr 15 16:22:07 will someone open a bug for the event then? Apr 15 16:22:07 tampakrap, also, the date isn't listed in the original email at all Apr 15 16:22:29 it will be held in mid-october, no final date yet Apr 15 16:23:51 * NeddySeagoon starts waving the gavel Apr 15 16:23:54 ok I will send an email to the trustees to help me define the Secretary duties, I have a couple questions Apr 15 16:24:23 dabbott, look in the bylaws ... Apr 15 16:24:37 ok Apr 15 16:24:52 any more open floor ? Apr 15 16:25:19 none from me Apr 15 16:25:28 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting