Mar 27 14:53:46 * NeddySeagoon polishes the virtual gavel with Annie Sloan light wax Mar 27 14:54:21 hmm, i think the power supply on my speakers is dying; the blue LED is totally fading and there's almost no sound coming out Mar 27 14:55:42 your LEDs have sound? Mar 27 14:55:58 from the speaker, not the LED Mar 27 14:57:20 wonder if there is somewhere I can buy a new 12VAC supply today Mar 27 14:57:58 or i should finally replace the units with something nicer Mar 27 14:58:20 ~15 year old creative speakers that I was re-gifted Mar 27 14:59:10 robbat2: I have the bose desktop https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/stereo_speakers/companion-2-series-iii-multimedia-speaker-system.html#v=companion2_black?srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=37-173665321-2&perfsourceid=MC113165&src=K22350 Mar 27 14:59:20 you can find them on sale Mar 27 14:59:55 these are the first generation creative gigaworks T20 Mar 27 15:01:02 anyway, meeting time Mar 27 15:01:12 yup Mar 27 15:01:49 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to open the March meeting of the Gentoo Foundation trustees. Mar 27 15:01:58 Oops ... late Mar 27 15:02:22 Roll Call SwifT robbat2 dabbott Mar 27 15:02:26 present Mar 27 15:02:27 present Mar 27 15:02:30 present Mar 27 15:02:34 present Mar 27 15:02:45 We have a quorum ... lets start Mar 27 15:02:50 doe he count twice for quorum? Mar 27 15:02:58 Who is logging the meeting - dabbot, its always you Mar 27 15:03:00 I am logging Mar 27 15:03:28 robbat2: We have 4 ... we only need 3 Mar 27 15:03:43 yes I know, just joking ;-) Mar 27 15:04:01 Activity Tracker ... Mar 27 15:04:41 we need to finish the renewal of the logo trademark Mar 27 15:04:45 IRS Return 990 Nov-2014 due Nov-2015 is that right ? Mar 27 15:04:55 it's overdue, and I need to talk about it in old business Mar 27 15:05:13 All I see is the Gentoo logo trademark Mar 27 15:05:15 Everything else looks OK Mar 27 15:05:46 robbat2 Your bit Treasurer handover status Mar 27 15:06:22 so what i've been trying to do the last month, without much success, is finding a US tax accountant here in vancouver to handle our status Mar 27 15:06:37 there's plenty that do personal returns, or large corporations Mar 27 15:06:51 but the closest I got was a firm that wanted a min of $5k to do it Mar 27 15:07:02 Matt never passed on the CPA details? Mar 27 15:07:18 also ran into a problem that it needs to be filed by somebody with an SSN (which I logically don't have) Mar 27 15:07:21 no, he never did Mar 27 15:07:33 hence doing that part from scratch :-( Mar 27 15:07:45 taht menas dabbott on Alex then Mar 27 15:07:56 that means .. Mar 27 15:08:01 dabbott: you mentioned you helped some org local to you with paypal problems, do you have a CPA contact as well? Mar 27 15:08:34 I moved from there :( Mar 27 15:08:50 I don't know anyone local Mar 27 15:08:50 and I don't suppose that last CPA was very tech-savvy? Mar 27 15:09:25 yea just a general tax person, it was simple Mar 27 15:09:26 Should we ask Wayn Chew? Mar 27 15:09:52 for a reccomendation, I mean Mar 27 15:10:21 we could, but I'm open to all other avenues of finding a CPA as well Mar 27 15:10:35 how about our community Mar 27 15:10:54 a related hurdle is that some firms here wanted books in quickbook format only Mar 27 15:11:35 post to -dev or -project looking for a CPA? Mar 27 15:11:58 It can't hurt Mar 27 15:12:03 how much time do we have? Mar 27 15:12:40 our past extensions must have run out by now; either we need a US person to file another extension immediately, or submit our taxes Mar 27 15:13:05 Can we file an extention ourselves Mar 27 15:13:12 * NeddySeagoon looks at dabbott ... to file for anoter extension Mar 27 15:13:18 I can do it if I know how Mar 27 15:13:26 i'm uncertain on when it would have run out, because matthew didn't pass on CPA details Mar 27 15:14:13 dabbott: look up form 8868 Mar 27 15:14:29 Is there any point in calling Matt or do we need to wark on the basis that he will be of no further assistance? Mar 27 15:15:09 i think he will not be of further assistance in the time available Mar 27 15:15:44 Is it worth a phone call ? Mar 27 15:15:46 robbat2: I see the form can you fill out the info you know and I can put it together and send it in Mar 27 15:16:08 NeddySeagoon: i've spoken to him multiple times to ask, and not gotten anything regarding the CPA Mar 27 15:16:19 Most CPA's will be super busy till after April Mar 27 15:17:04 At leat if we file something and maybe get lucky with a CPA that used Gentoo Mar 27 15:17:14 robbat2: Thats a 'no' then :( Mar 27 15:17:41 dabbott: That would be really good Mar 27 15:17:42 ok; action items from this: post a notice TODAY on -dev, -project, -nfp lists about wanting a CPA Mar 27 15:17:53 2. work with dabbott this afternoon to fill that form Mar 27 15:18:12 Sounds good. Mar 27 15:18:41 when we have a CPA, I also want to know how to request all of our old tax filings, since no prior treasurer seems to have kept those records Mar 27 15:19:20 so last bit of old business I have is a non-status report on paypal Mar 27 15:19:45 when I last spoke to them on the phone, they said the verification could take a month, and that passed this last week Mar 27 15:19:54 it's still marked as in progress from their side Mar 27 15:20:06 can we use the account in that period? Mar 27 15:20:50 yes; we just don't want to trust it with large amounts; which is holding up two things: SFC donation & ARM64 purchase Mar 27 15:21:33 i'm not going to stir the pot with paypal compliance department for the moment Mar 27 15:21:46 Sounds fair Mar 27 15:22:11 And the checks won't work, no signature on file Mar 27 15:22:35 There is a lot of other stuff on. I suppose we don't have a current account we can use either ? Mar 27 15:22:59 same signature issue Mar 27 15:23:08 our money is safe, we just can't spend it Mar 27 15:23:51 There must be a way to get the bank to accept a new signature without the help of an existing signatury? Mar 27 15:24:33 we have the draft of a letter to send them, we should probably move forward on it Mar 27 15:24:36 We should be able to use the NM filing for that Mar 27 15:24:54 robbat2: Agreed Mar 27 15:25:19 i'll finish the draft when I talk to dabbott this afternoon, and circulate for signing by trustees Mar 27 15:25:31 can everybody put a signature on something without having to print it and scan it back? Mar 27 15:25:31 That works Mar 27 15:25:31 sounds good Mar 27 15:26:22 robbat2: You mean a real signature on paper? I don't know how Mar 27 15:26:46 as long as you have a high-res scan of just your signature, I can show you how to do it with gimp & pdftk Mar 27 15:26:52 robbat2: we would need to ciruulane the paper. Mar 27 15:27:32 I thind I hawe a transparent scan of my sig. Mar 27 15:27:48 anyway, we can do the digital version and hard copy as a followup to it Mar 27 15:28:01 Ok Mar 27 15:28:14 that's all from treasurer old business now Mar 27 15:28:45 swift Trademark stuff. Mar 27 15:29:07 I finally got around to making the slight adjustments as requested on our december meeting Mar 27 15:29:08 Work has been 12 or 14 hour days I've not read it yet Mar 27 15:29:35 no worries Mar 27 15:29:49 Looks fine by me, thanks Mar 27 15:29:50 there are no "major" changes, more better explanations of certain situations Mar 27 15:29:51 I did see the email though Mar 27 15:29:54 for instance, overlays and so Mar 27 15:30:06 well, the mail sums it up so you don't need to reread ;-) Mar 27 15:30:13 :) Mar 27 15:30:33 Bugs Open Trustee Bugs Mar 27 15:30:34 I'd like to put it on -nfp again (it's been a year) together with the remark that it will go live on a certain date (I am aiming for May 1st) Mar 27 15:30:52 SwifT: sounds good Mar 27 15:31:05 I'll see with our infra team on how to change it (current one -> keep somewhere archived, new one, etc.) Mar 27 15:31:24 'cause the current one (and many links to it) are on the static website which I don't have access to Mar 27 15:31:35 i recommend archive.org Mar 27 15:31:42 for old website stuff Mar 27 15:31:51 that's also a possibility Mar 27 15:32:00 beyond that I can show you how to put content in the new website Mar 27 15:32:11 SwifT: I'm good with that. Mar 27 15:32:23 I do have one question about the renewed trademark/guidelines though - should we put a paragraph in about time? like that we review and renew yearly? Mar 27 15:32:37 or are these guidelines everlasting for those who see it? Mar 27 15:33:33 SwifT: The guidelines are not rectactive ... we tend to review them from "time to time" rather that on a regular basisi Mar 27 15:33:49 i think he means do our grants of usage expire Mar 27 15:33:56 Mostly when a case comes up that they don't address :) Mar 27 15:34:08 yes - currently I don't think they expire Mar 27 15:34:20 They do not expire Mar 27 15:34:50 we could add in a clause about licenses expiring or at least that we expect users to regularly review the license to see if it still applies? Mar 27 15:34:59 Do we need to review bugs? Mar 27 15:35:04 or do you rather not go that route? it's not like it changed a lot Mar 27 15:35:21 (and given how long we're doing about it to change it... ;-) Mar 27 15:35:36 lets leave it ... Mar 27 15:35:40 ok Mar 27 15:35:47 sorry for holding the agenda back - please do continue Mar 27 15:35:56 bugs ... Mar 27 15:36:45 Before spanky buys that arm64 box, make sure he understands we don't know when we can pay him back Mar 27 15:38:33 yes, there have been some developments in the arm64 server world since then, so i think the exact item might change too Mar 27 15:39:05 The 64 bit Raspberry Pi :) Mar 27 15:39:49 http://linuxgizmos.com/two-96boards-sbc-debut-including-one-with-amds-arm-soc/ Mar 27 15:40:07 Any more on bugs? Others look like they are blocked on banking Mar 27 15:41:03 New Business ... Mar 27 15:41:49 "Genfleetoo" (by email to the trustees) .... last I recall, he wants to use a logo that includes our G logo but squashed Mar 27 15:42:49 we discussed that iirc, we don't want the logo's aspect ratio to be modified Mar 27 15:42:51 i think he had a version after that just put another image layer on top w/ his brainmap stuff Mar 27 15:43:29 Thats a no no on similarity grounds. I'm good with usisg our logo with an overlay though Mar 27 15:44:02 OK, lets look into it before the next meeting Mar 27 15:44:08 how is that not an overlay? (in the visual sense) Mar 27 15:44:45 I'm OK with the overlay ... not the squashed G logo behind it Mar 27 15:45:09 * rich0_ is now known as rich0 Mar 27 15:45:43 Membership Applications ... Aaron Bauman Mar 27 15:45:52 Thats a yes frow me Mar 27 15:45:56 aye Mar 27 15:45:59 aye Mar 27 15:46:00 yes Mar 27 15:46:01 from ... even Mar 27 15:46:28 I will email him and add him to the member list Mar 27 15:46:36 Date of Next Meeting - 17 April 2016 19:00 UTC ... Three weeks time ... Mar 27 15:46:43 dabbott: Thatnk you Mar 27 15:46:48 fine here Mar 27 15:47:01 Works for me too Mar 27 15:47:19 ok Mar 27 15:47:29 might have toddler issues that meeting, but every other weekend in april is busy Mar 27 15:47:49 (getting toddler into swim lessons that end 18:30 UTC) Mar 27 15:47:50 Toddlers are always issues :) Mar 27 15:48:11 and the following week is her 2nd birthday Mar 27 15:48:16 They swim natually too Mar 27 15:48:46 I just have something small for the meeting if it's still time Mar 27 15:48:51 we got an encrypted e-mail (not yoy NeddySeagoon I think you don't have a GPG key) about tomboy64's personal name (he doesn't want to share it with the project). I've confirmed on his recruitment bug that we received the information. Mar 27 15:49:09 SwifT: I read it :) Mar 27 15:49:14 ok Mar 27 15:49:16 I checked it also :) Mar 27 15:49:40 so I have one comment regarding it; and that's people now know it might not be his real name Mar 27 15:50:04 can we handle such issues more carefully; leave the note on the bug, but don't mention it here Mar 27 15:50:21 oh... yes, didn't think of that Mar 27 15:50:28 There has been some chatter on the forums that the Charter and/or the Social Contract were mangled in the wikification process. I'll look into it Mar 27 15:51:41 I can compare the Wiki and Guide XML versions Mar 27 15:52:26 Responsibilities ... dabbott you offered. Thank you Mar 27 15:52:44 Open Floor ... Mar 27 15:53:42 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting Mar 27 15:53:50 Thank you team