Jun 19 14:58:16 * NeddySeagoon passes SwifTthe virtual gavel. Jun 19 14:58:39 SwifT: thank you for the offer to chair Jun 19 14:58:44 no proble Jun 19 14:58:51 I've always wanted to bang that toy Jun 19 14:58:57 (don't quote me out of context) Jun 19 14:59:27 SwifT: https://twitter.com/HallieCBC/status/740855091020857344. unintentional my ass Jun 19 14:59:49 heh Jun 19 14:59:54 hehe Jun 19 15:00:01 * antarus coughs Jun 19 15:00:06 ok Jun 19 15:00:12 * SwifT smashes the gavel on the table Jun 19 15:00:15 roll call Jun 19 15:00:20 here Jun 19 15:00:25 * NeddySeagoon is here Jun 19 15:00:30 * SwifT is here too apparently Jun 19 15:00:33 over here o/ Jun 19 15:00:49 ok, we have a quorum... robbat2 might or might not make it depending on reception Jun 19 15:01:03 who's taking notes? Jun 19 15:01:10 Usage: ME , sends the action to the current channel (actions are written in the 3rd person, like /me jumps) Jun 19 15:01:24 * dabbott log Jun 19 15:01:30 great, thanks for that Jun 19 15:01:42 let's go over the agenda - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Meetings/2016/06 Jun 19 15:01:57 Topic: Old Business - Trustees - Activity Tracker Jun 19 15:02:07 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Activity_Tracker Jun 19 15:02:17 we're close to the trustee election Jun 19 15:02:27 what do we need to do next? Jun 19 15:02:54 ok recording date is today Jun 19 15:03:07 SwifT: admit new members, update the ml and list of members Jun 19 15:03:32 next is the mail for nominations Jun 19 15:03:48 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Elections Jun 19 15:04:03 we been trying to document there Jun 19 15:04:08 ok Jun 19 15:04:25 so we're at step 4 then? Jun 19 15:04:32 jmbsvicetto: is out partying be he needs the updated members list Jun 19 15:04:38 but* Jun 19 15:05:07 we should be able to give him the updated members list, with the added members of today's meeting Jun 19 15:05:16 latest list with todays new members https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Member_List Jun 19 15:05:29 you're a champ Jun 19 15:05:53 I'll fix +v here Jun 19 15:06:07 whaty are the dates for the nominations and elections? Jun 19 15:06:14 to send out the nomination mail, perhaps we could add in the template content of the mail to the Foundation:Elections page as well, for future reference Jun 19 15:07:33 I would use a generous month for nominations (say up to july 31st)? Jun 19 15:07:44 dabbott: 4 weeks each, results by AGM Jun 19 15:07:59 NeddySeagoon: ok thanks Jun 19 15:08:13 ah right, we want it to be finished by the AGM roughly Jun 19 15:08:49 dabbott: you need some help with sending out the mails/drafting them up? Jun 19 15:09:11 elections need a few days to prepare the ballot and declare the result Jun 19 15:09:26 here is the one from last year https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/3269dc737eb60765043839b3e4aded81 Jun 19 15:09:35 if there is a vote ... Jun 19 15:09:44 :) Jun 19 15:10:03 ok, we can reuse the content and update it to match the new dates Jun 19 15:10:18 who is up for election me and NeddySeagoon? Jun 19 15:10:21 and rotation-riterees Jun 19 15:10:32 I thought I was up? Jun 19 15:10:49 I'm a rotation retiree Jun 19 15:11:07 antarus: no, you're with me, still have to hold on for an additional year afaik Jun 19 15:11:45 not sure if robbat2 is also part of it, as he substituted matt Jun 19 15:11:49 we can check with past results Jun 19 15:11:52 ah Jun 19 15:11:53 indeed we can Jun 19 15:11:54 ok here is the email I sent out last year, I will update it with the new dates and run it by you all by email https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/c50fe91057664a3522adc1e36409d321 Jun 19 15:11:58 ok then Jun 19 15:12:14 let's finish the name list outside of this meeting, no need to hold it further up Jun 19 15:12:18 dabbott: thanks Jun 19 15:12:18 I am matts replacement Jun 19 15:12:24 ah ok Jun 19 15:12:41 anything else for the trustee election? Jun 19 15:13:21 if not, then next on the activity list is the AGM meeting. Do we need to already fix that date this month? Jun 19 15:13:23 I have in mind not to stand, as I emaied\ Jun 19 15:14:33 AGM Aug 21 this year Jun 19 15:14:36 If there was an exit stratergy for me, I might stand. What does the team thing will be best for the Foundation? Jun 19 15:14:51 You need to stay Jun 19 15:15:13 I think it mostly depends on the number of nominees Jun 19 15:15:16 NeddySeagoon: I'd be more comfortable if you stay, but I can definitely understand if real life is telling you not to Jun 19 15:15:42 NeddySeagoon: you don't need to make up your mind right now, you can wait until the last day of the nomination period Jun 19 15:15:43 SwifT: yes. Its the deadline for election resuts. New trustees take their seats at the AGM Jun 19 15:15:46 did we even hold an election last year, or did we have # of nominees == slots Jun 19 15:16:04 I worry about that if you do not nominate, but as SwifT notes we can wait and see Jun 19 15:16:12 antarus: the latter Jun 19 15:16:19 NeddySeagoon: i do not think you should take one for the team, as it were Jun 19 15:16:27 its up to us to find people, not you Jun 19 15:17:25 dabbott: we can do the gentoo-dev-announce AGM meeting announcement in a few days then (not too soon, can't do it more than 60 days before the meeting apparently) Jun 19 15:17:41 ok, let's move on Jun 19 15:17:49 antarus: I would be good with a phased withdrawal if there was a plan to replace me at short notice. Thats up to the remainin trustees Jun 19 15:18:03 I don't think anything else on the activity list needs our immediate attention Jun 19 15:18:15 unless someone disagrees, I'll move on to the next topic (in 10, 9,<...) Jun 19 15:18:24 moving on is fine Jun 19 15:18:36 Next Topic: Old Business - Trustees - CPA Accountant Search Jun 19 15:18:47 with robbat2 not online, I think we need to skip this Jun 19 15:18:48 I talked to Bob Conti our accountant yesterday Jun 19 15:18:53 oh ok Jun 19 15:19:00 go on Jun 19 15:19:28 I am goint to sign some forms for our old irs records so we are moving forward Jun 19 15:19:41 he is going to do our taxes etc Jun 19 15:20:05 he is retired and doing it pro bono for now just not real fast Jun 19 15:20:06 dabbott: are we paying Bob for his services? Jun 19 15:20:30 ok Jun 19 15:21:03 he is currenty working on getting hid girlfrinds daughter over here from ussr so not alot of time but later he will do everything needed Jun 19 15:21:48 that's great news (that he's helping us out) and I hope he is able to help his GF and her daughter too Jun 19 15:22:21 he likes the whole open source project with world wide members so he wants to help out Jun 19 15:22:48 sounds good Jun 19 15:22:57 he said if later it gets to be too much he may sub some work out that we would need to pay for Jun 19 15:23:13 I reckon that will not be a problem Jun 19 15:23:21 that works too Jun 19 15:23:27 robbat2: has done and continues to do alot of the book work so that is a big ++ Jun 19 15:24:10 good, let's keep the CPA aspect on our agenda, just not call it "Accountant Search" anymore for now Jun 19 15:24:21 I will let you know when he sends out the forms Jun 19 15:24:29 SwifT: ok sounds good Jun 19 15:24:44 Signal! Jun 19 15:24:46 welcome back robbat2|phone Jun 19 15:24:46 thats it :) Jun 19 15:24:51 dabbott: how are we covring his expenses? Jun 19 15:25:08 I have no logs of what happened so far fyi Jun 19 15:25:12 pro bono unless he needs to sub out work Jun 19 15:25:17 At least not on me Jun 19 15:25:30 Talking about Bob? Jun 19 15:25:35 yes Jun 19 15:25:48 robbat2|phone: yes, we're on the CPA aspect (well close to finishing that topic) Jun 19 15:26:04 robbat2: he is currenty working on getting hid girlfrinds daughter over here from ussr so not alot of time but later he will do everything needed Jun 19 15:26:04 that's great news (that he's helping us out) and I hope he is able to help his GF and her daughter too Jun 19 15:26:04 he likes the whole open source project with world wide members so he wants to help out Jun 19 15:26:04 sounds good Jun 19 15:26:04 he said if later it gets to be too much he may sub some work out that we would need to pay for Jun 19 15:26:04 I reckon that will not be a problem Jun 19 15:26:04 that works too Jun 19 15:26:04 robbat2: has done and continues to do alot of the book work so that is a big ++ Jun 19 15:26:04 good, let's keep the CPA aspect on our agenda, just not call it "Accountant Search" anymore for now Jun 19 15:26:04 I will let you know when he sends out the forms Jun 19 15:26:04 SwifT: ok sounds good Jun 19 15:26:04 Signal! Jun 19 15:26:04 welcome back robbat2|phone Jun 19 15:26:04 thats it :) Jun 19 15:27:06 if nothing else, we can move on to the next topic (in 5, 4, ...) Jun 19 15:27:13 robbat2: he has some forms for me to sign for our back taxes Jun 19 15:27:35 Thanks. I need to finish my script changes for the financial reports he wanrs Jun 19 15:28:07 Next Topic: Old Business - antarus (it's empty on the agenda itself, ok to go to next topic?) Jun 19 15:28:22 I'm not old ;( Jun 19 15:28:59 Next Topic: Old Business - dabbott (it's empty on the agenda itself, ok to go to next topic?) Jun 19 15:29:14 yes please do :) Jun 19 15:29:22 Next Topic: Old Business - robbat2 - Treasurer Report Jun 19 15:30:03 robbat2|phone: anything in particular we need to cover today? Jun 19 15:30:04 It's going to come from the same script changes Jun 19 15:30:23 Nothing else to say; raw numbers are very healthy Jun 19 15:30:27 bank account recovery? Jun 19 15:30:39 Hmm, sorry that slipped me Jun 19 15:31:06 np. we seem to have limited use anyway Jun 19 15:31:10 Need to finish that Letter and get it in the mail to scotland Jun 19 15:31:41 Next Topic: Old Business - NeddySeagoon (it's empty on the agenda itself, ok to go to next topic?) Jun 19 15:31:50 sure Jun 19 15:31:54 Next Topic: Old BUsiness - swift - Gentoo Trademark License Agreement Jun 19 15:32:03 the next agreement is online (yay) Jun 19 15:32:10 s/next/new/ Jun 19 15:32:17 https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/foundation/name-logo-guidelines.html Jun 19 15:32:36 there has been some comments on -nfp Jun 19 15:32:36 i will go through a number of bugs that might refer to issues with the old one and see if they are still valid Jun 19 15:33:02 NeddySeagoon: if it isabout the snapcraft gentoo logo usage, it's on the agenda in AoB Jun 19 15:33:30 its derived from that, yes Jun 19 15:33:44 there were some comments about the name-logo-guidelines in the past on NFP, but those should have been covered (the latest pre-publication edit had most of them tackled, except those that I didn't want to wait out on further) Jun 19 15:33:47 Did it include A3li's comments about not distorting logo? Jun 19 15:33:56 yes Jun 19 15:34:03 3We will not approve any variations of the Gentoo logo that change the aspect ratio or otherwise distort the shape." Jun 19 15:34:14 +1 Jun 19 15:35:20 if nothing else, i'll move to the next topic Jun 19 15:35:45 Next Topic: Old Business - Bugs Jun 19 15:35:55 anyone who wants to tackle a particular bug today in the meeting? Jun 19 15:36:10 I'm good Jun 19 15:36:16 no thanks Jun 19 15:36:40 ok, Next Topic: New Business - Approved Vendor Requests - FreeWear Jun 19 15:36:42 see also https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584594 Jun 19 15:38:04 I wanted someone else to eyeball their logos for distortion, but their plan was +1 otherwise Jun 19 15:38:28 they're very open in what they do and how they wish to persue things Jun 19 15:38:46 I'm moving to accept/approve this Jun 19 15:39:42 fine here, robbat2 once some one is approved, who adds there name to the approved list on g.org Jun 19 15:40:05 SwifT: is that a motion to accept then? Jun 19 15:40:09 (baring any subtleties about where and how their logo is put on our site - be it on https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/sponsors/ or elsewhere) Jun 19 15:40:11 approved provided the logo/text is OK. Jun 19 15:40:17 aye for approval Jun 19 15:40:20 antarus: ah, motion Jun 19 15:40:26 antarus: missed an English word then ;) Jun 19 15:40:33 antarus: yes, motion to accept Jun 19 15:40:53 approved provided the logo/text is OK. Jun 19 15:41:08 same here Jun 19 15:41:09 aye Jun 19 15:41:11 aye Jun 19 15:41:11 Aye pending confirmation Jun 19 15:41:35 Next Topic: New Business - Funding Requests (is empty on the agenda, ok to move to hext topic?) Jun 19 15:41:43 yep Jun 19 15:41:59 Next Topic: New Business - Sponsorship Requests (is empty on the agenda, ok to move to next topic?) Jun 19 15:42:06 yep Jun 19 15:42:16 (FYI: just type in a ! or so if you have something to say and are afraid that I move too quickly ;) Jun 19 15:42:28 SwifT: I dn't usually ask Jun 19 15:42:28 Next Topic: New Business - Advertising Requests (is empty on the agenda, ok to move to next topic?) Jun 19 15:42:47 yep Jun 19 15:42:54 Next Topic: New Business - Membership Applications Jun 19 15:43:01 we have three gentoo developers on the roll Jun 19 15:43:16 motion to accept them all three in one vote Jun 19 15:43:22 we voted them in on the alias Jun 19 15:43:33 Include names here for the record Jun 19 15:43:52 Sam Jorna (wreath), Alfredo Tupone (tupone) and Amy Winsten (amynka) Jun 19 15:43:58 AMy Winston that is Jun 19 15:44:09 ok added to members list Jun 19 15:44:13 welcome all three Jun 19 15:44:22 indeed, welcome all Jun 19 15:44:31 hello! Jun 19 15:44:43 in time to take part in th election Jun 19 15:44:56 Next Topic: Any other Business - snapcraft Gentoo logo usage Jun 19 15:45:02 https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/df0cbb5102025473bc2f8c9f7f0beed0 Jun 19 15:45:08 (and subsequent) Jun 19 15:45:52 personally, I think that the logo is part of the "service identification". It's not like it looks like an official Gentoo project to me Jun 19 15:45:57 * ChanServ gives voice to fuzzyray Jun 19 15:46:10 lets take this to the alias after -nfp has been quiet for a day or two Jun 19 15:46:29 I don't see the logo at all on the mobile version of site Jun 19 15:46:50 it couldappear to be an offcial overlay Jun 19 15:47:28 the logo links to the download not gentoo.oorg Jun 19 15:47:34 well, even overlays are allowed to use the gentoo logo. Jun 19 15:47:48 I do agree that there should be a link to gentoo.org, which could be very well as part of the next about the ebuilds Jun 19 15:48:46 if you want, we can discuss further on the trustees@g.o alias to iron things out Jun 19 15:48:46 lets build on what comes out of -nfp Jun 19 15:49:26 there are several issues there Jun 19 15:50:04 we won't solve everything here and now Jun 19 15:50:32 indeed. let's work things out further outside the meeting and put this back on the agenda for next time then? Jun 19 15:50:37 Agreed Jun 19 15:50:40 aye Jun 19 15:50:41 yes Jun 19 15:50:44 I have one AoB Jun 19 15:50:57 Next Topic: dabbot's AoB ;-) Jun 19 15:51:47 I updated the store with my limited skills, it does use some css and images from g.org http://www.cafepress.com/officialgentoo Jun 19 15:52:58 thats it Jun 19 15:53:02 I wouldn't dare to comment on it, my UI skills are of a 2yo Jun 19 15:53:37 Next Topic: Cleanup - Date of Next meeting Jun 19 15:53:40 seems fine Jun 19 15:53:43 thanks dabbott Jun 19 15:53:46 it's currently marked as 17 July 19 UTC Jun 19 15:54:00 that is, July 17th, 2016 at 19:00h UTC Jun 19 15:54:05 wfm Jun 19 15:54:08 fine here Jun 19 15:54:09 wfm Jun 19 15:54:26 I should make it, but I leave for holidays the day after early so I won't put my hands in the fire for it Jun 19 15:54:27 It's a maybe for me, might be on a plane Jun 19 15:54:47 But the other Sundays in july are all booked Jun 19 15:55:11 ok, let's settle for the agreed upon date then, we should have a quorum Jun 19 15:55:22 Next Topic: Open Floor Jun 19 15:55:26 lets go for it. Jun 19 15:55:49 I will send out the email to the new members, update the motion page and post the log Jun 19 15:56:02 dabbott: thanks! Jun 19 15:56:19 I'll fix the channel acl Jun 19 15:56:44 nothing else for open floor (closing meeting in 10, 9, ...) ? Jun 19 15:57:07 * SwifT bangs NeddySeagoon's gavel to close the meeting Jun 19 15:57:12 thank you team Jun 19 15:57:17 happy sunday yall Jun 19 15:57:20 thank you all for today's meeting (and the work you're all putting in Gentoo ;) Jun 19 15:57:36 * SwifT sends the gavel to NeddySeagoon again